Batman movie plot rumor – What might go wrong?

In the last few days (or weeks), there have been an awful lot of news and rumors around the new The Batman movie by Matt Reeves, starring Robert Pattinson. Either it’s about Pattinson sharing his experience with the Batsuit, asking for advice from one of his seniors – Christian Bale, or rumors about villains’ casting. But the piece that actually grabbed my attention is where they gave us a plot prediction regarding a rumor and the director’s interview back in January. In short, here’s what the rumor says:

The Batman will explore a detective case – when people start dying in strange ways Batman must go deep into the dark world of Gotham to find clues and solve the mystery/conspiracy connected to Gotham City’s history and criminals.

In the film all of Batman Rogues Gallery are already out there and active similar to the comics and animated shows/movies. The film will have multiple villains as they are all suspects.

“Hey there Batsy!” Source

So, assuming the rumor is true, what can we expect of the final product?

From what I think, this idea have a lot of things done right, but there are also possible risks that the filmmakers should pay attention to.

We know. Ya parents dead. Move on dood. Source

The first thing we can see is that this new movie will have a high chance to skip Batman’s origin story, ya know the “my parents was shot in an alley” part, and jump straight to him being Batman for a while with his established Rogue Gallery. I’m not saying that part sucks, quite the contrary, to me Bruce Wayne’s origin is one of the most crucial catalysts in his journey to become the Batman. But after a huge amount of adaptations of Batman on both big and small screens, I believe it’s safe to say that us viewers are ready to move on from it, and so does Bruce.

Take the latest portrayal of Spider-Man for example. Do we know about uncle Ben’s famous quote “With great power, comes great responsibility”? Yes. Do we need to hear him say that for the 3rd time? Not really. Instead, we heard Peter’s own understanding of that phrase when he talked to Tony in Civil War. That approach is actually quite nicely done, because it showed us that even though Peter is already swinging around the neighbourhood helping people, his uncle’s words still resonates with him to a large extent. Same goes for Bruce. I’m not against they bringing up his parents’ deaths, just that it would be better if they can execute it in a subtle way and not letting it take much screen time.

Then show us! Source

Secondly, Reeves’ idea of bringing a new sway around Batman’s journey to become the world’s greatest detective is as good as it is creatively. Take Nolan’s trilogy for example. I love it, and I would not change a thing about it. Well actually… maybe the fight scenes could be better choreographed, ’cause all the punching and kicking looked like ballet to me. Jokes aside, we can see that the detective factor was not the primary focus of all Nolan’s 3 films. Same goes for other Batman interpretation, such as Clooney’s, Keaton’s, or Affleck’s. The detective bits are always there, just that we can’t really see them reading criminal files, or interrogating some third rate douches to find the main villain in the shadow, struggling in their heads. That’s why Reeve’s idea, if done right, will make his Batman live up to the name World’s Greatest Detective.

Reading this plot leak gives me a very quick glimpse of what the film might be like, and I think that you guys feel the same way. I can vision a crime-detective genre movie with a dark and grim main theme where Batman go around Gotham screaming and banging villains’ heads to walls. Nothing wrong with it, really. But hey, does that sounds a little familiar to you? Hmm… Isn’t that dark feel already used in Nolan’s and DCEU’s version.

Dude… I’m TURNED ON! Source

No offence Mr. Clooney. Seriously, I know that Batman is dark from his suit to his spirit animal, but can’t we have something new in this interpretation of him? Sure, be dark, be grim, be sexy with your grunts and low Bat-voice, I don’t care. But if that is what’s gonna happen with The Batman, how can the viewers look at Reeves’ version for its originality and not a somewhat copycat of the successful Nolan’s trilogy?

As I have always been with every unreleased movies, I have my doubts and prediction, but I never judge any products before watching it myself. But as someone who have a special interest when it comes to superhero sci-fi, I don’t want to see a version of Batman that desperately tries to copy Nolan’s successful trilogy because WB failed in their attempt with DCEU’s Batman. My dear reader, what do you think after reading my blog?

What direction is the new JOKER movie following, exactly?

The final trailer of the upcoming JOKER movie dropped right in our faces just a few days ago. I don’t know about you guys, but I have insanely high hopes for this movie. Partly because this is the latest incarnation of the clown prince of crime loved by many, or because it has nothing to do with the Worlds of DC (as DC refers to their cinematic universe). But mostly, it’s because of that The Killing Joke and Gotham vibe I get from all these trailers and teasers.

From sad clown…

So firstly… what’s The Killing Joke? Some of you may have memorized every single detail of it, some may be completely clueless. Therefore to get everyone on to the same page, I’m going to write a short summary on this iconic graphic novel by Alan Moore.

Pretty sure y’all have seen this photo somewhere. Source

The story starts with Batman coming into Arkham Asylum to talk with Joker about their relationship, and his effort to try and turn things around. However, he found out Joker is already outside, and is up to his own jizz. This time, Joker determine to execute all kinds of terrible stuff to Jim Gordon in order to make Jim turn crazy and prove his ultimate point: All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy.(we will get to that later). Throughout the story, we also see multiple flashback scenes of Joker when he was still a somewhat sane man, or at least, what the mad clown think was his past. Let’s take a quick look at it.

Experience the magic here.

Seems familiar? In this origin, Joker was a failing comedian struggling to get gigs and money to support his family (wife and expecting kid). Even though his wife is genuinely supportive, the guy is still obsessed with his feeling of uselessness. And to me, this situation is without a doubt one of the biggest reason why the mad clown was born, as similar to Joaquin Phoenix’s version.

How so? Well, do you think Arthur (or whathisname in The Killing Joke) just snapped and became crazy, just like that? I beg to differ. One bad day is all it takes to turn a sane man crazy, that’s his philosophy. But in the Alan Moore’s version, even though Joker has done all the worst things to Jim Gordon, including raping his daughter and making him watch an entire musical out of it, Jim still stand. He even requested Batman to bring Joker in, by the book, not to kill him. So no, I think that one bad day doesn’t just happened with any man. Arthur… well the guy was already cracked before everything, if you ask me. He was already living a shitty life with a shitty career. As Phoenix’s Joker beautifully put it:

All I have are negative thoughts.

Arthur Fleck, Joker, 2019

The person hearing this, as we saw in the trailer, is Arthur’s therapist, who seemingly is helping him keep himself together. When she said that it’ll be their last time seeing each other, I immediately knew that is going to be one of his turning points, his catalysts to become the Joker, along with his mother lying on hospital bed and all.

… to mad clown.

What about his goal? I hope you haven’t forget what I said in the beginning, ’cause this is where the Gotham part comes in.

I meant Gotham as in the TV series. Source

If there are two things both Gotham’s Joker and Phoenix’s Joker (from what I gained by watching trailers) have in common, it will undoubtedly be their PURPOSES & METHODS. The signs are there, and I will be happy to point some of them out for you.

At this point, I believe it’s safe to say Batman, as we know him, will not be who he is today without the Joker’s presence in his life. The pair is the exact opposite of each other. If Batman is dark and grim, Joker is bright and colorful. If Batman is calm and thorough, Joker is crazy and loud. And if Batman is the symbol of fear for all villains around Gotham city…

Joker is the symbol of insanity and chaos to all of its citizens.

Granted, there is no apparent “Batman” in Phoenix’s Gotham City. But before you start thinking I’m spouting shits everywhere, just watch the second half of the final trailer down below and think about it for a sec.

Watch from 0:51 till the end to see what I mean.

Lots of riots and chaos huh? All across the city, rioters all wear the same clown masks, as if they are following a cult, led by none other than the Joker himself. Still, while chaos are running around the city, we still see scenes where Arthur stands in the middle of the clown crowd with absolutely no makeup whatsoever. What could this possibly mean?

Well, this one I’m not too sure, but for the sake of you guys reading this, I’m going to take a wild guess. Arthur can stand so comfortably in the middle of the chaos because he has already published himself, as an icon, a symbol, and as a leader for every single person who is sick of their corrupted and mundane lives. He can either be in the crowd in his normal clothes, with face paint and a colorful suit, or wearing a clown mask similar to every other followers of his. It doesn’t matter. Everything has already been done.

Above are the character direction I think the new JOKER movie will set out for Joaquin Phoenix’s Arthur Fleck. Just like you guys, I can’t wait until October to see what Todd Phillips have prepared for this “masterpiece”. To end this article, I would like to ask you guys a superb question that I saw from Joaquin Phoenix’s interview at Venice film festival:

Do you think that Arthur turning into Joker is a defeat or an evolution?